Episode 21: Life Is Messy

Rachel and Mike talk about the messiness of grief, and about making art out of life.

(Recorded November 26, 2025)

Transcript

Show Notes

• Sally Mann - Art Work: On the Creative Life

• Sally Mann - Hold Still: A Memoir with Photographs

• Commonplace - Episode 130: Lois Conner

• Andi Schreiber

• Elizabeth Fleming

• Kate Hutchinson

• Fredrik Backman - My Friends

• Tumblr - “The gutter looks at the stars too”

Episode Credits

• Music: Podington Bear

• Editing: Mike Sakasegawa

• Transcription: Shea Aguinaldo